If you go back a few pages they were holding hands and leaning into each other in a comforting way. I get the impression that little time passed before they were interrupted, so that is my guess on what her mother saw.
/GOD/ i would be throwing hands at that mom right now. For being in a society that doesn’t touch she’s all up in there and needs to get out of his face.
Also, do we know how old Abeille and Miel are? I can’t remember if that was ever discussed in the comic. They’ve got to be at least in their 20s.
I reread the comic the other day. Miel’s parents said they moved to Monotropa when Miel was eight and they’ve been there for twenty years now so that makes Miel 28. Abielle will probably be close to that, maybe a bit younger.
I am not sure she is shrinking. It may be that she is bracing herself for telling her mother that she needs to get out of her life for now. Fortunately this does not look like a story line that would keep us hanging in suspense for months until we know…
“what sort of perverted things *are you making her do*”
*Tsk*
When I tell you those exact words hit so much to home it might as well have been ANY one of family members that I can still hear it ringing true like it was just a few seconds ago…my good God can I relate to Abielle in that second to last panel like you can’t even believe. Fudge how’s this gonna conclude?!
It’s nice when people are worried about you, but a lot of people do things that are consensual and seem perverted to others! And unless there is a good reason to be suspicious, your family should question what’s going on behind closed doors. If it’s a close friend that asks because they’re worried that much more understandable, usually because then tend to know you a lot more personally and might even understand what you’re into.
Ok…I mean, I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make when I was focusing on Amaryllis’ thought process: That Abeille is incapable of doing anything without being told or controlled as Amaryllis is used to. She sees Abeille as vulnerable, unstable and incapable of independent thought for her best interests in her (Amaryllis’) eyes. I grew up like that, to the point of being used as a means of communication between waring parents (“Tell your mother this.” “Tell you father that” etc.) and since they never saw any fault in it, just saw me as a tool to do as I was told.
As for questioning what adults do behind closed doors (I’m pretty sure you meant to say that your family SHOULDN’T question, based on how you started that sentence) it IS nice when people care and worry about you, but we know that Amaryllis is FAR from worried about Abeille’s actual well being. She’s extremely controlling to the point of toxicity & prideful to a fault and…*sigh* the more I think about it, the more bad memories keep coming because of how similar she is to my own mother. It legit hurts watching Abeille cower beneath her mother’s beratement, trying to come off as a concerned parent but not realizing just how horrible she really sounds. I can only PRAY Acier’s words can at least get her to stop if only for a moment, seeing as she’s making quite the scene which would it turn mortify her into some kind of complacency.
Hugs, WikiDreamer. I was raised with the idea that I was an extension of my mother – not a person in my own right. So, I also grew up with a mom who saw me as incapable of independent thought, vulnerable, helpess… despite the fact that my mom is a raging feminist and both my parents raised me to be independent, and take guff from nobody. But god forbid I got out into the big wide world on my own to conquer my own dragons without calling mommy every bloody day for her advice or help. I finally broke free from that relationship dynamic (see below comment) and it resulted in almost 10 years of emotional abuse from my mother, and my entire family telling me for 10 years that I should just apologize to my mom – that I wasn’t being a “good daughter” if I didn’t reach out to her.
I actually got an email my mom wrote to my dad before my wedding (he forwarded it to me as part of a conversation to “prove” my mom did care about me) where she described me as a butterfly that hadn’t yet emerged from my cocoon. I. Was. 36.
Needless to say that Amaryllis is pushing all kinds of buttons for me right now because this particular scene was my life for about a year after my mom learned that I moved in with my boyfriend.
That was my mother. I asked my bf to move in with me, and my mom (who has 1940’s Catholic values) flipped the f out when she found out. She also accused my bf of “corrupting my values”, “being a bad influence” and “coercing me into letting him move in”, because obviously there’s no way her “pure”, “innocent” daughter could possibly have agency ever. >:(
God if I were there I would be feral. I would like step between her and her mom and be like “ma’am you are making a scene of your daughters private life in a public place. If I had someone as controlling and distrustful as you for a mother I would have moved star systems too. Back off or I will practice some physical touch on you.”
OF FREAKING COURSE Amarillys “Knw something was wrong” he immediately noticed that Miel is a free and wholesome person that loves and support her daugther HOW DARE HE?!
No, the boss just looks like he reeeally want her to be quiet and I feel he would actually understand private interactions are private, not hold it against him, and understand. Meilo has been shown to have good, healthy interactions with his boss before (without crossing boundaries).
“Ma’am, let’s discuss this somewhere more private.” actually stinks of consequences. Why would Mr Acier be privy to such discussions? From what I have seen of him so far, my guess is that he wants to keep both Abeille and Miel from making any pledges or choices that might come out different depending on thoughts he has about options for Miel’s and possibly Abeille’s professional future. Which can go in a whole lot of different directions. Either way, the vibe I am getting from him is that he wants put his card on the table before Amaryllis has a chance to call the game.
well acier is somewhat in charge of the event as a representive of the company. at least someone high enough up to be able to quickly secure a private place.
his comment sounds much more like just moving this scene out of public in general as someone with ties to all parties. just to avoid ruining the event for everyone else.
besides I am pretty sure acier already knew they were a couple, it wasn’t a secret really.
Couple seems to be defined differently there. Sex is normal and trivial. It’s not obvious to me what about couples would be worrying to Mr. Acier. Amaryllis thinks she’s saving her daughter, I think. Grasping for someone to blame is typical. So many different things are converging here. I’m not sure what will happen.
He also was the one who directly sent Amaryllis *to* the tent to find them, so I could see him feeling responsible for the scene starting to begin with. It could be a combination of things at play here for why he’d attempt to take charge and move to a private location – including simply being witness to one of his employees being berated at a casual work event.
I actually think that he’s coming from an understanding point of view. I thnk he wants to make sure the mom leaves the area, and also make sure that the mom doesn’t force Meil or Abielle to do anything against their will. Meil himself has talked about his relationship (sans touching) with Mr. Acier before, and Acier saw how Meil feels about her. I thinhk he’s definitely on their side. Maybe he’ll offer to move Abielle with Meil??
Yeah, from what we see of Mr Acier in these scenes I have been thinking: Maybe he got Abeille to do work as a foster because there is a job opening for a foster in the new colony? So that Miel and Abeille can move there together? I would like that development. 🙂
I am feeling more and more that Abielle needs to just cut her mother out of her life. It is not a healthy relationship. I understand her mother is grieving and apparently blames herself for her daughter’s death. But, it is clear that she is toxic right now. I hope Abielle tells her to leave, seeing as her parents are visiting her.
The panel where Amaryllis turns to Abielle is just…chilling. How she’s looking down on the viewer, on Abielle. Jeeze. It can’t be any more clear that she doesn’t respect her daughter. Well done.
Have you ever been in a fight with someone that you love? People have multiple motivations going on at any moment, I think. We can care about people at the same time that we are reacting to an emotional scar that makes us think we are being attacked, even when it’s not applicable to the situation that we are in. None of that excuses our actions. But, if we want to be effective rather than reactionary, it is worthwhile understanding what motivates people, I think.
Oh come on, Mallow. Please defend your daughter. Or Abeille, please tell your mother to sod off. It is definitely not a healthy relationship. It’s time to tell her, she’s gotta go.
Argh, I forgot the comic was at a tense place when I decided to catch up a couple pages after a nightmare. This was not a good idea for me. Mother issues are part of my trauma. Well written parental trauma is kicking my butt this week.
I wish Amaryllis people were rare, but I’ve never found them to be. Poor Abeille. I can’t blame her for moving so far away.
Also in that last panel, Mr. Acier looks like he is so done with Amaryllis’s behavior. I kinda hope he tells her off for making a scene and trying to trash one of his star employees’ reputation.
Well at least they didn’t caught them hugging . . . . let’s hope Miel’s boss and Abielle’s father step up here for Abielle.
Their hands make me think she might have caught them hugging, unless it was Miel massaging her bosom.
If you go back a few pages they were holding hands and leaning into each other in a comforting way. I get the impression that little time passed before they were interrupted, so that is my guess on what her mother saw.
/GOD/ i would be throwing hands at that mom right now. For being in a society that doesn’t touch she’s all up in there and needs to get out of his face.
Also, do we know how old Abeille and Miel are? I can’t remember if that was ever discussed in the comic. They’ve got to be at least in their 20s.
I reread the comic the other day. Miel’s parents said they moved to Monotropa when Miel was eight and they’ve been there for twenty years now so that makes Miel 28. Abielle will probably be close to that, maybe a bit younger.
According to the character bio in the Extras, Abeille is 23 and Mielle is 28!
Poor Abeille, she’s shrinking against her mother and it’s so scary…
I am not sure she is shrinking. It may be that she is bracing herself for telling her mother that she needs to get out of her life for now. Fortunately this does not look like a story line that would keep us hanging in suspense for months until we know…
“what sort of perverted things *are you making her do*”
*Tsk*
When I tell you those exact words hit so much to home it might as well have been ANY one of family members that I can still hear it ringing true like it was just a few seconds ago…my good God can I relate to Abielle in that second to last panel like you can’t even believe. Fudge how’s this gonna conclude?!
It’s nice when people are worried about you, but a lot of people do things that are consensual and seem perverted to others! And unless there is a good reason to be suspicious, your family should question what’s going on behind closed doors. If it’s a close friend that asks because they’re worried that much more understandable, usually because then tend to know you a lot more personally and might even understand what you’re into.
Ok…I mean, I don’t understand what point you’re trying to make when I was focusing on Amaryllis’ thought process: That Abeille is incapable of doing anything without being told or controlled as Amaryllis is used to. She sees Abeille as vulnerable, unstable and incapable of independent thought for her best interests in her (Amaryllis’) eyes. I grew up like that, to the point of being used as a means of communication between waring parents (“Tell your mother this.” “Tell you father that” etc.) and since they never saw any fault in it, just saw me as a tool to do as I was told.
As for questioning what adults do behind closed doors (I’m pretty sure you meant to say that your family SHOULDN’T question, based on how you started that sentence) it IS nice when people care and worry about you, but we know that Amaryllis is FAR from worried about Abeille’s actual well being. She’s extremely controlling to the point of toxicity & prideful to a fault and…*sigh* the more I think about it, the more bad memories keep coming because of how similar she is to my own mother. It legit hurts watching Abeille cower beneath her mother’s beratement, trying to come off as a concerned parent but not realizing just how horrible she really sounds. I can only PRAY Acier’s words can at least get her to stop if only for a moment, seeing as she’s making quite the scene which would it turn mortify her into some kind of complacency.
Hugs, WikiDreamer. I was raised with the idea that I was an extension of my mother – not a person in my own right. So, I also grew up with a mom who saw me as incapable of independent thought, vulnerable, helpess… despite the fact that my mom is a raging feminist and both my parents raised me to be independent, and take guff from nobody. But god forbid I got out into the big wide world on my own to conquer my own dragons without calling mommy every bloody day for her advice or help. I finally broke free from that relationship dynamic (see below comment) and it resulted in almost 10 years of emotional abuse from my mother, and my entire family telling me for 10 years that I should just apologize to my mom – that I wasn’t being a “good daughter” if I didn’t reach out to her.
I actually got an email my mom wrote to my dad before my wedding (he forwarded it to me as part of a conversation to “prove” my mom did care about me) where she described me as a butterfly that hadn’t yet emerged from my cocoon. I. Was. 36.
Needless to say that Amaryllis is pushing all kinds of buttons for me right now because this particular scene was my life for about a year after my mom learned that I moved in with my boyfriend.
That was my mother. I asked my bf to move in with me, and my mom (who has 1940’s Catholic values) flipped the f out when she found out. She also accused my bf of “corrupting my values”, “being a bad influence” and “coercing me into letting him move in”, because obviously there’s no way her “pure”, “innocent” daughter could possibly have agency ever. >:(
God if I were there I would be feral. I would like step between her and her mom and be like “ma’am you are making a scene of your daughters private life in a public place. If I had someone as controlling and distrustful as you for a mother I would have moved star systems too. Back off or I will practice some physical touch on you.”
Mallow might be thinking something like that, poor impeded sweetie.
OF FREAKING COURSE Amarillys “Knw something was wrong” he immediately noticed that Miel is a free and wholesome person that loves and support her daugther HOW DARE HE?!
God damnit…
And now of course Miel might as well loose that job offer because some shitty “no touching” reason T_T
No, the boss just looks like he reeeally want her to be quiet and I feel he would actually understand private interactions are private, not hold it against him, and understand. Meilo has been shown to have good, healthy interactions with his boss before (without crossing boundaries).
If I wasn’t convinced she was gonna be the hate-sink of the comic before, I certainly would be now.
Mr Acier seems weirdly unsurprised
“Ma’am, let’s discuss this somewhere more private.” actually stinks of consequences. Why would Mr Acier be privy to such discussions? From what I have seen of him so far, my guess is that he wants to keep both Abeille and Miel from making any pledges or choices that might come out different depending on thoughts he has about options for Miel’s and possibly Abeille’s professional future. Which can go in a whole lot of different directions. Either way, the vibe I am getting from him is that he wants put his card on the table before Amaryllis has a chance to call the game.
well acier is somewhat in charge of the event as a representive of the company. at least someone high enough up to be able to quickly secure a private place.
his comment sounds much more like just moving this scene out of public in general as someone with ties to all parties. just to avoid ruining the event for everyone else.
besides I am pretty sure acier already knew they were a couple, it wasn’t a secret really.
Couple seems to be defined differently there. Sex is normal and trivial. It’s not obvious to me what about couples would be worrying to Mr. Acier. Amaryllis thinks she’s saving her daughter, I think. Grasping for someone to blame is typical. So many different things are converging here. I’m not sure what will happen.
He also was the one who directly sent Amaryllis *to* the tent to find them, so I could see him feeling responsible for the scene starting to begin with. It could be a combination of things at play here for why he’d attempt to take charge and move to a private location – including simply being witness to one of his employees being berated at a casual work event.
I actually think that he’s coming from an understanding point of view. I thnk he wants to make sure the mom leaves the area, and also make sure that the mom doesn’t force Meil or Abielle to do anything against their will. Meil himself has talked about his relationship (sans touching) with Mr. Acier before, and Acier saw how Meil feels about her. I thinhk he’s definitely on their side. Maybe he’ll offer to move Abielle with Meil??
Yeah, from what we see of Mr Acier in these scenes I have been thinking: Maybe he got Abeille to do work as a foster because there is a job opening for a foster in the new colony? So that Miel and Abeille can move there together? I would like that development. 🙂
Sometimes I act like this when I’m faced with folks who are freaking out. It’s like an emotional shutdown so I can focus on de-escalating.
I am feeling more and more that Abielle needs to just cut her mother out of her life. It is not a healthy relationship. I understand her mother is grieving and apparently blames herself for her daughter’s death. But, it is clear that she is toxic right now. I hope Abielle tells her to leave, seeing as her parents are visiting her.
The panel where Amaryllis turns to Abielle is just…chilling. How she’s looking down on the viewer, on Abielle. Jeeze. It can’t be any more clear that she doesn’t respect her daughter. Well done.
The whole next line where she very clearly thinks of her as still a child really drives that home.
Have you ever been in a fight with someone that you love? People have multiple motivations going on at any moment, I think. We can care about people at the same time that we are reacting to an emotional scar that makes us think we are being attacked, even when it’s not applicable to the situation that we are in. None of that excuses our actions. But, if we want to be effective rather than reactionary, it is worthwhile understanding what motivates people, I think.
Oh come on, Mallow. Please defend your daughter. Or Abeille, please tell your mother to sod off. It is definitely not a healthy relationship. It’s time to tell her, she’s gotta go.
Shit, meet the fan. Oy vey, what a toxic woman.
I’ve never wanted to slap someone so hard in my life… >:(
She doesn’t have the problem; YOU DO!
Welcome to queer relationships in the real world.
Well, that’s sort of the point, isn’t it? And well-made.
Absolutely!
Slap her, Abeille!
Argh, I forgot the comic was at a tense place when I decided to catch up a couple pages after a nightmare. This was not a good idea for me. Mother issues are part of my trauma. Well written parental trauma is kicking my butt this week.
I wish Amaryllis people were rare, but I’ve never found them to be. Poor Abeille. I can’t blame her for moving so far away.
Also in that last panel, Mr. Acier looks like he is so done with Amaryllis’s behavior. I kinda hope he tells her off for making a scene and trying to trash one of his star employees’ reputation.