So hey, sorry to be a nag, but
“Anyway, the person whose decisions you should be respecting is Abeille. It’s her choice”
Alternatively “the decisions you should be respecting are Abeille’s. The choice is hers.”
Now that that’s out of the way, YES! Best case scenario: Abeille stays the night and Amarylis is politely asked to leave for the night.
I’m not sure what you mean because Miel’s statement is grammatically correct, and when Amarylis spoke she was referring to Miel, not his decisions. Maybe it just flows better to your preference, but it’s not necessarily incorrect.
Weeeeell, Alliswellz, I have to side with QueenSalis on this one.
Let’s look at the sentence the way it’s written first: “The person whose decisions you should be respecting is Abeille’s”
Now let’s take that sentence and remove the ‘extra’ information in order to break it down to its core element, so it now looks like this: “The person (whose decisions you should be respecting) is Abeille’s”.
Now we see that doesn’t work grammatically, so the sentence therefore should be “The person (whose decisions you should be respecting) is Abeille”.
QueenSalis is correct, it should be “Abeille,” not “Abeille’s.” It was bugging me too, so I checked to see if someone had already brought it up.
“The person” is the subject of the sentence. You could truncate the sentence to, “The person you should be respecting is Abeille,” or even, “the person is Abeille,” which makes it more clear and obvious. It’s a complicated sentence.
Miel’s just talking to Amaryllis, not writing her a formal letter. Cut him some slack – this isn’t botany, so he isn’t exactly on familiar territory here!
Sure, noone is perfect, Miel is entitled to speak in a way that he wants as I’m entitled to make typos in the comments 🙂 I hope I didn’t come across as too mean.
Also, Miel’s face on panel 2 is the perfect “yeah, I gots no time for your BS, bench”
Finally someone calls her out on basically lying with her platitudes and holds her feet to the fire about what she’s REALLY saying.
well, at least the original “who’s” (who is) got fixed to “whose”, so thank you for that
I can accept the other thing as coloquial speech and get back to gushing over the actual content of the page <3
I get (I think) what everyone means grammatically. But when I read it, it sounds to me like: “the person whose decisions you should be respecting are those of Abeille.” It’s the decisions of Abeille that need to be respected. I don’t really get what the sentence means if it’s just saying “This is Abeille” since that sentence lacks the core point of the sentence which I read as “respect Abeille’s decisions.”
Amaryllis’s attempt at manipulation doesn’t work on Miel. He’s not emotionally attached to her in any way, so her crocodile tears don’t affect him. He knows what he’s seen, which is his happy, outgoing, energetic and lively girlfriend wilt every time she interacts with her mother. It’s not hard to figure out who’s hurting Abeille.
How quickly the tears dry up when the person you’re trying to manipulate is immune to them. They’ll be back on to plead to Abeille to stay. I really reallly REALLY hope she does not follow her mother, but I worry how much Amaryllis has her under her thumb.
I’d love to see Mallow grow some balls and defend Abeille’s decision to stay with Miel, that would be the icing on the Amaryllis-Not-Getting-What-She-Wants cake.
If he grew Pasque flowers, during the visit (or started them, anyway), while also defending Abeille, they would make a lovely gift. Supposedly, they like full sun and dry soil.
Watching Amaryllis’s expressions rapidfire shift is fascinating and horrifying. And oh, Miel! A swoonworthy moment for sure. His calm is such solid contrast, though I suspect he is going to need backup from his mothers before this is through.
Her fury at being told point blank that her daughter’s decisions should be respected is textbook narcissistic parent.
To Amaryllis, Abeille isn’t a person, she’s a possession. Her daughter is supposed to be an extension of herself, and Abeille isn’t acting like an extension of Amaryllis like she’s supposed to. Her usual tactics to get her daughter back under her control aren’t working, so she hates this person who’s encouraging her mini-me to act wrong.
No one SHOULD mollify Amaryllis. Anything that would mollify a narcissist will only encourage them. In fact, no one should cater to a narcissist in the first place, *especially* when trying to help their victim.
Hmm, I didn’t consider narcissistic personality disorder (which is surprising given current events). What I was thinking was that if Amaryllis’s emotional display earlier were actually genuine (and I realize that’s a pretty big ‘if’), that would be the opportunity to try and get her to understand that Abeille is actually fine.
I worry she’ll be unable to accept cause her mom will pull some “don’t you dare” shiz, threats of retribution or “how could you leave me” misery.
And she can still go STRAIGHT to the media and make a stink how “Eyebright employees are a bunch of perverts and they hurt my vulnerable daughter, the CEO is trying to sweep it under the rug, it’s just despicable”
which would FORCE Acier to fire Miel with a public statement of disavowment.
I think it is, but am not certain. My impression is that he did just make it clear that he and Abeille are joined and that’s why Abeille looks like she is in shock. Even though it’s seemed clear to me that they are together, it was left described as Abeille’s experiment, until this meeting.
Having all that support in the room and Miel confirming what Abeille has wanted and with Miel telling Mr. Acier that he’s with Abeille. I hope it means there isn’t much Amaryllis can do to separate them.
They did figuratively say they “like like” each other and want to do things together and not with other people, but I think this might be the first time he indicated it’s THIS serious of a feeling in open speech
I think someone pointed out last page that Amaryllis got a “spotlight” on her in the background when she started crying. Now that Miel has refocused away from Amaryllis’s dramatics back onto Abeille, the spotlight is now on her in the last panel.
I noticed that the Gina’s announcement about this page said “the spotlight’s on you”. I think that’s confirmation. Also, “Guest” gets some kind of award for noting this on the previous page, in my opinion.
And I really love how Miel sees (and cuts!) right through the crap that Amaryllis is spewing. If this was about making Abeille happy, she would probably voice her worries, but reserve judgement that this -has- to end until she has watched them both interact with each other (not as a peeping tom, while they are touching or whatnot, but how they treat each other in general and what effect that has on one another) until she has more “data/proof” on whether or not this is indeed -hurting- either of them.
But no, she’s like a general in war. She sees that Miel (and his mothers) are supporting Abeille and Amaryllis wants to cut those support lines, so Abeille will be completely and utterly at Amaryllis’ mercy once more, after she manages to sever those ties/support lines. Divide and conquer, that’s something already the old Roman emperor and warmonger Caesar knew to be effective.
And yes, considering how quickly Amaryllis’ tears dry up only confirms my initial impression that she is just trying every trick at her disposal in order to get what she wants, switching gears instantly whenever one manipulative tool she used doesn’t work out.
I may not be able to know her motivations or her feelings, but man, do I know that person is more trouble than any and all good moments with her would be worth and thus I would do my best to minimize contact with her the best I could. I hope Abeille is able to see (and do!) that, too.
Oh, and I love the non-plussed, almost emotionless expression that Miel is sporting in Panel 3, when he is “facing” (at least in my mind) Amaryllis. It’s like he non-verbally tells her “Yeah, you can’t pull that (emotional) crap on me.”
I fully expect her to try to snap back on Abeille to threaten her or Miel, but as of this moment, I think Abeille is very much ready to just stay with Miel. He’s shown so much devotion to her already, and even though it’s the first time he’s used the word ‘love’ he did tell her that he was passing up on something he ‘loved’ aka the job, because he wouldn’t want it if she wasn’t there. He’s already told her in so many words he loves her. It’d be nice if Mallow just sort of steered her out at this point but that poor guy is just as much a victim of Amaryllis as Abeille is. Let’s see if someone manages to defuse the Amabomb.
inbefore: she gets livid, red with rage and rushes the tv network with a scandal.
Meanwhile I hope Miel’s #MothersOfTheYear, AKA #MotherSoftHeyEar (I’ll see myself out) offer Abeille some spare clothing for dignity reasons as she is still in undergarments.
Given how fast Amarylis stopped crying I’m going to call faking on that one. Her behavior has actually been classic emotionally abusive and controlling. Now I bet she is going to try and make good on her threat to force Abeille to return to their planet with them.
As someone with a narcissistic mother-in-law who watched their spouse constantly be treated like Amaryllis treated Abeille, this page made me ugly laugh-cry in joy.
Well, Cordia and Jasmine did a good job. That boy they raised may have queer tastes, but there is nothing about his moral compass that they don’t have every reason to be proud of.
Ok, I think people are being rather hard on Abeille’s mom. Its pretty obvious she is VERY domineering on any given day but we have no way of knowing if how she is behaving now is a result of her grief of losing her daughter. That is something that can bring out the worst in anyone.
That may also explain why Abeille’s dad is having such a hard time intervening.
I’m not saying this is how anyone should behave at any point, but we might want to consider it before tearing her apart while she deals with some pretty tragic circumstances.
You are not alone. What Abeille might need to do is completely separate from whether or not Amaryllis should be hated. Anger is something I feel momentarily. Hatred seems like when I justify feeling angry and compulsively hold on to that feeling while catastrophizing. It makes me physically sick.
Abeille’s approach has resulted in this very positive situation, so far. That could change, but I hope not.
TAKE THAT MOM WE’RE GONNA HOLD HANDS
Hahahaha
HELL FREAK’N YEAH
get rekt
Damn Miel, this is hot, not gonna lie.
YES!!!! Miel is standing up for Abeille and supporting her but also letting her make the decisions. Ama is pissed and that’s GREAT!
So hey, sorry to be a nag, but
“Anyway, the person whose decisions you should be respecting is Abeille. It’s her choice”
Alternatively “the decisions you should be respecting are Abeille’s. The choice is hers.”
Now that that’s out of the way, YES! Best case scenario: Abeille stays the night and Amarylis is politely asked to leave for the night.
I’m not sure what you mean because Miel’s statement is grammatically correct, and when Amarylis spoke she was referring to Miel, not his decisions. Maybe it just flows better to your preference, but it’s not necessarily incorrect.
They mean the last little apostrophe in that first sentence!
The original is: “Anyway, the person whose decisions you should be respecting is Abeille’s.” Abeille’S.
That reads: “The person (…) is Abeille’s.” Like, the person… belongs to Abeille?? xD
Probably the original was “The person (…) is Abeille.”
And the last apostrophe+s is likely a typo ^_^
Oops! I actually misread it, and I feel silly. Yep, yall’re right haha
Weeeeell, Alliswellz, I have to side with QueenSalis on this one.
Let’s look at the sentence the way it’s written first: “The person whose decisions you should be respecting is Abeille’s”
Now let’s take that sentence and remove the ‘extra’ information in order to break it down to its core element, so it now looks like this: “The person (whose decisions you should be respecting) is Abeille’s”.
Now we see that doesn’t work grammatically, so the sentence therefore should be “The person (whose decisions you should be respecting) is Abeille”.
Besides, we’re dealing with colloquial English here, which isn’t always grammatically correct.
QueenSalis is correct, it should be “Abeille,” not “Abeille’s.” It was bugging me too, so I checked to see if someone had already brought it up.
“The person” is the subject of the sentence. You could truncate the sentence to, “The person you should be respecting is Abeille,” or even, “the person is Abeille,” which makes it more clear and obvious. It’s a complicated sentence.
Miel’s just talking to Amaryllis, not writing her a formal letter. Cut him some slack – this isn’t botany, so he isn’t exactly on familiar territory here!
Sure, noone is perfect, Miel is entitled to speak in a way that he wants as I’m entitled to make typos in the comments 🙂 I hope I didn’t come across as too mean.
Also, Miel’s face on panel 2 is the perfect “yeah, I gots no time for your BS, bench”
Finally someone calls her out on basically lying with her platitudes and holds her feet to the fire about what she’s REALLY saying.
well, at least the original “who’s” (who is) got fixed to “whose”, so thank you for that
I can accept the other thing as coloquial speech and get back to gushing over the actual content of the page <3
I get (I think) what everyone means grammatically. But when I read it, it sounds to me like: “the person whose decisions you should be respecting are those of Abeille.” It’s the decisions of Abeille that need to be respected. I don’t really get what the sentence means if it’s just saying “This is Abeille” since that sentence lacks the core point of the sentence which I read as “respect Abeille’s decisions.”
Oh… Amarylis does the spotlight and he blurs it, then puts his own respectful spotlight on Abeille
THANK YOU MIEL!! Show that our girl has her own agency, she is smart and capable of making her own choices, and deserves to find her own happiness!!
Amaryllis’s attempt at manipulation doesn’t work on Miel. He’s not emotionally attached to her in any way, so her crocodile tears don’t affect him. He knows what he’s seen, which is his happy, outgoing, energetic and lively girlfriend wilt every time she interacts with her mother. It’s not hard to figure out who’s hurting Abeille.
TAKE THAT, LADY!!
I CAN SMELL THE BURN ALL THE WAY HERE IN PUERTO RICO!!!!!! *Claps for Miel*
Err, you may want to check your stove…
Right on, Miel. It’s about time someone shut out that woman’s manipulative poison.
How quickly the tears dry up when the person you’re trying to manipulate is immune to them. They’ll be back on to plead to Abeille to stay. I really reallly REALLY hope she does not follow her mother, but I worry how much Amaryllis has her under her thumb.
I’d love to see Mallow grow some balls and defend Abeille’s decision to stay with Miel, that would be the icing on the Amaryllis-Not-Getting-What-She-Wants cake.
If he grew Pasque flowers, during the visit (or started them, anyway), while also defending Abeille, they would make a lovely gift. Supposedly, they like full sun and dry soil.
Haha yes, get riggity-riggity-wrecked, trash
Please, please, *please* Abeille – take that boy’s hand.
Watching Amaryllis’s expressions rapidfire shift is fascinating and horrifying. And oh, Miel! A swoonworthy moment for sure. His calm is such solid contrast, though I suspect he is going to need backup from his mothers before this is through.
Agreed, Abeille is on the edge, but her mother is a force of nature. Just one person reaching won’t be enough.
Cordia, Jasmine, you wonderful mothers you, this would be a good time to “sign on” this invitation and politely “disinvite” Amarylis from your house.
Her fury at being told point blank that her daughter’s decisions should be respected is textbook narcissistic parent.
To Amaryllis, Abeille isn’t a person, she’s a possession. Her daughter is supposed to be an extension of herself, and Abeille isn’t acting like an extension of Amaryllis like she’s supposed to. Her usual tactics to get her daughter back under her control aren’t working, so she hates this person who’s encouraging her mini-me to act wrong.
Don’t know if there really was an opportunity for Miel to mollify Amaryllis, but it’s certainly gone now. This is gonna get ugly again.
No one SHOULD mollify Amaryllis. Anything that would mollify a narcissist will only encourage them. In fact, no one should cater to a narcissist in the first place, *especially* when trying to help their victim.
Hmm, I didn’t consider narcissistic personality disorder (which is surprising given current events). What I was thinking was that if Amaryllis’s emotional display earlier were actually genuine (and I realize that’s a pretty big ‘if’), that would be the opportunity to try and get her to understand that Abeille is actually fine.
I genuinely can’t articulate how perfect a response that was, so I’m just going to fall back on my favorite Undertale reference:
geeettttttt
dunked on!!!
Go Miel! Let our girl know what actual love looks like! Because it’s not manipulative controlling crazy momma there!
I really hope Abeille manages to say yes
I worry she’ll be unable to accept cause her mom will pull some “don’t you dare” shiz, threats of retribution or “how could you leave me” misery.
And she can still go STRAIGHT to the media and make a stink how “Eyebright employees are a bunch of perverts and they hurt my vulnerable daughter, the CEO is trying to sweep it under the rug, it’s just despicable”
which would FORCE Acier to fire Miel with a public statement of disavowment.
But wait wait wait a minute… could this be the first time he said “love” in such context?
Did Honey-Boy just full-on confess?
I think it is, but am not certain. My impression is that he did just make it clear that he and Abeille are joined and that’s why Abeille looks like she is in shock. Even though it’s seemed clear to me that they are together, it was left described as Abeille’s experiment, until this meeting.
Having all that support in the room and Miel confirming what Abeille has wanted and with Miel telling Mr. Acier that he’s with Abeille. I hope it means there isn’t much Amaryllis can do to separate them.
They did figuratively say they “like like” each other and want to do things together and not with other people, but I think this might be the first time he indicated it’s THIS serious of a feeling in open speech
Oh, he’s a keeper. <3
I think someone pointed out last page that Amaryllis got a “spotlight” on her in the background when she started crying. Now that Miel has refocused away from Amaryllis’s dramatics back onto Abeille, the spotlight is now on her in the last panel.
yup, I shortly described it in one of my many comments 😀
yup, I shortly described it in one of my many comments to this page 😀
I noticed that the Gina’s announcement about this page said “the spotlight’s on you”. I think that’s confirmation. Also, “Guest” gets some kind of award for noting this on the previous page, in my opinion.
Why thank you kindly for noticing, Kendall. 🙂
And I really love how Miel sees (and cuts!) right through the crap that Amaryllis is spewing. If this was about making Abeille happy, she would probably voice her worries, but reserve judgement that this -has- to end until she has watched them both interact with each other (not as a peeping tom, while they are touching or whatnot, but how they treat each other in general and what effect that has on one another) until she has more “data/proof” on whether or not this is indeed -hurting- either of them.
But no, she’s like a general in war. She sees that Miel (and his mothers) are supporting Abeille and Amaryllis wants to cut those support lines, so Abeille will be completely and utterly at Amaryllis’ mercy once more, after she manages to sever those ties/support lines. Divide and conquer, that’s something already the old Roman emperor and warmonger Caesar knew to be effective.
And yes, considering how quickly Amaryllis’ tears dry up only confirms my initial impression that she is just trying every trick at her disposal in order to get what she wants, switching gears instantly whenever one manipulative tool she used doesn’t work out.
I may not be able to know her motivations or her feelings, but man, do I know that person is more trouble than any and all good moments with her would be worth and thus I would do my best to minimize contact with her the best I could. I hope Abeille is able to see (and do!) that, too.
Oh, and I love the non-plussed, almost emotionless expression that Miel is sporting in Panel 3, when he is “facing” (at least in my mind) Amaryllis. It’s like he non-verbally tells her “Yeah, you can’t pull that (emotional) crap on me.”
Sorry, I meant “unimpressed”, not “non-plussed”. Apparently I mixed up some vocabularies badly in my mind. XD
Holy Bat Juice! He is awesome.
SWOON
+1
I fully expect her to try to snap back on Abeille to threaten her or Miel, but as of this moment, I think Abeille is very much ready to just stay with Miel. He’s shown so much devotion to her already, and even though it’s the first time he’s used the word ‘love’ he did tell her that he was passing up on something he ‘loved’ aka the job, because he wouldn’t want it if she wasn’t there. He’s already told her in so many words he loves her. It’d be nice if Mallow just sort of steered her out at this point but that poor guy is just as much a victim of Amaryllis as Abeille is. Let’s see if someone manages to defuse the Amabomb.
“Amabomb” Thumbs up X 1,000
inbefore: she gets livid, red with rage and rushes the tv network with a scandal.
Meanwhile I hope Miel’s #MothersOfTheYear, AKA #MotherSoftHeyEar (I’ll see myself out) offer Abeille some spare clothing for dignity reasons as she is still in undergarments.
Given how fast Amarylis stopped crying I’m going to call faking on that one. Her behavior has actually been classic emotionally abusive and controlling. Now I bet she is going to try and make good on her threat to force Abeille to return to their planet with them.
As someone with a narcissistic mother-in-law who watched their spouse constantly be treated like Amaryllis treated Abeille, this page made me ugly laugh-cry in joy.
Well, Cordia and Jasmine did a good job. That boy they raised may have queer tastes, but there is nothing about his moral compass that they don’t have every reason to be proud of.
Abeille, *Please* marry this man.
Ha, those tears dried up quick.
Ok, I think people are being rather hard on Abeille’s mom. Its pretty obvious she is VERY domineering on any given day but we have no way of knowing if how she is behaving now is a result of her grief of losing her daughter. That is something that can bring out the worst in anyone.
That may also explain why Abeille’s dad is having such a hard time intervening.
I’m not saying this is how anyone should behave at any point, but we might want to consider it before tearing her apart while she deals with some pretty tragic circumstances.
You are not alone. What Abeille might need to do is completely separate from whether or not Amaryllis should be hated. Anger is something I feel momentarily. Hatred seems like when I justify feeling angry and compulsively hold on to that feeling while catastrophizing. It makes me physically sick.
Abeille’s approach has resulted in this very positive situation, so far. That could change, but I hope not.