I mean… she did Ringette and lunch-trayed a dude. There is a chance if her mom pulls the anger routine that Abeille finally snaps giving Amaryllis a headbutt-induced missing tooth since she “loved” Abeille’s so much. Not likely, but it exists.
I mean…this comic explores the rediscovery of the various emotional connections afforded by physical touch. So far we’ve mainly addressed the positive side of it; romance, supportive friendships etc. But there are darker aspects (hatred, rage, frustration etc), and these are arguably most often expressed through violence. I think a confrontation between Abeille and Amaryllis that turns physical would be the perfect place to explore the negative side of touch, and would make for both a natural evolution of their conflict and an important lesson for both of them: What happens when years of mistreatment, resentment and abuse finally come to a head.
I keep thinking about this page. I think it’s a style of page that leads me to ponder.
It’s broken out from the storyline. Time stands still. It’s a portal to herself back then, on Pasque, figuratively. Eye to eye. Finger to finger. When all else is lost, Abeille has herself and the love and strength that Evette gave her.
That’s how I’ve always seen Abeille. She needs to know she’s doing the right thing. It has to be real. She loves people, and she can’t just placate them.
Thallone, honestly, with someone as toxic and abusive as Amaryllis, it’s really best *not* to try to undo what you’ve done. Amaryllis isn’t going to change because she doesn’t think *she* is the problem – in her mind, it’s Abeille’s fault her surviving daughter doesn’t fit her expectations. At this point, the best – and healthiest – thing for Abeille to do is cut her parents out of her life.
I’m projecting my own life onto the story. But for me, finality was a problem, in needing space from family members. It left a wound that was always there. Deep down, I knew that I was telling myself that it has to be final, because I’m not strong enough to maintain a boundary. I knew I was accepting an over-generalization about my family members. I knew I needed to characterize them as irredeemable to have “courage” to keep them away.
My impression of Abeille is that she struggles with loving her parents and she would have trouble maintaining hatred. On patreon, there are drawings of Mallow and Abeille playing that I think show there is a bond there.
After deciding to try to let go of my anger about family members, the separation stayed the same, but admitting what I was doing made a major difference in my life. Getting email from them didn’t make my stomach hurt any more. For now, I am maintaining a personal boundary, not because they are all the characterizations I make of them, but because that is what I need right now and for the foreseeable future. It’s a position of honesty and resilience rather than paranoia and defensiveness.
That same intention applies to people I’m not wanting to shut out of my life too, and the communities that I and we are interrelated to. I don’t consciously assume my generalizations about them are accurate. I try not to put them on a pedestal. I can insist on personal boundaries without thinking I’m being mean to them.
The title of this comic isn’t about the pleasure machine being unable to find love, or even about her relationship with Miel, though that is pivotal. It’s about 1) the fact of Abeille never *having* love from her own parents, and it’s 2) about her learning to love *herself* enough to stand up to her mother.
Ever since this page published, I’ve come back to see it at least three times. There is something about the way that the story has been leading up to it, something about the way it’s framed… I’m not sure what exactly, but the “Again. I’m here again.” line strikes deep enough to draw blood.
Me too. I don’t know words for it. I bet there is a word.
I reread the comic a lot for a wiki and always find something new in each frame. But this is a page where I think you are invited to study it, and there is so much. I’m invited to revisit the entire story.
In one sense, it’s comic-like, as in what comics are, supposedly, comparing marvel/dc etc. comics. There’s a page where the heroine is portrayed and ideas are presented without a tail showing that someone is speaking. It’s a part like the chorus in a song where you break out to reflect on the meaning. it’s the break. It’s the breaks. Break it down.
It recurs through out Gina’s comics. And there are delightful themes. Abeille and Abeille are touching and they are doing the eye to eye thing. Abeille is self-loving. She’s empowered.
I love the contrast between old Abielle and current Abielle.
Old Abielle is blue with constrained hair and a numb/depressed expression.
Current Abielle is pink with flowing hair and an unhappy, but expressive face.
Go get’em, Abeille!
You can do it, Abeille. She has so much support now. She can break the circle.
I bet there is a comics term for this sort of page. I love it. The artwork in this chapter is very pleasing to look at.
I love that she is backing herself. Self-parenting.
I know that’s Fully not what kind of comic this is but I imagined Abeille just Beating her mom’s ass asdfs
I mean… she did Ringette and lunch-trayed a dude. There is a chance if her mom pulls the anger routine that Abeille finally snaps giving Amaryllis a headbutt-induced missing tooth since she “loved” Abeille’s so much. Not likely, but it exists.
I mean…this comic explores the rediscovery of the various emotional connections afforded by physical touch. So far we’ve mainly addressed the positive side of it; romance, supportive friendships etc. But there are darker aspects (hatred, rage, frustration etc), and these are arguably most often expressed through violence. I think a confrontation between Abeille and Amaryllis that turns physical would be the perfect place to explore the negative side of touch, and would make for both a natural evolution of their conflict and an important lesson for both of them: What happens when years of mistreatment, resentment and abuse finally come to a head.
I keep thinking about this page. I think it’s a style of page that leads me to ponder.
It’s broken out from the storyline. Time stands still. It’s a portal to herself back then, on Pasque, figuratively. Eye to eye. Finger to finger. When all else is lost, Abeille has herself and the love and strength that Evette gave her.
That’s how I’ve always seen Abeille. She needs to know she’s doing the right thing. It has to be real. She loves people, and she can’t just placate them.
It is true that Abeille isn’t good at standing up for herself. It is time she does.
Someone’s about to do something you can’t undo.
Thallone, honestly, with someone as toxic and abusive as Amaryllis, it’s really best *not* to try to undo what you’ve done. Amaryllis isn’t going to change because she doesn’t think *she* is the problem – in her mind, it’s Abeille’s fault her surviving daughter doesn’t fit her expectations. At this point, the best – and healthiest – thing for Abeille to do is cut her parents out of her life.
I’m projecting my own life onto the story. But for me, finality was a problem, in needing space from family members. It left a wound that was always there. Deep down, I knew that I was telling myself that it has to be final, because I’m not strong enough to maintain a boundary. I knew I was accepting an over-generalization about my family members. I knew I needed to characterize them as irredeemable to have “courage” to keep them away.
My impression of Abeille is that she struggles with loving her parents and she would have trouble maintaining hatred. On patreon, there are drawings of Mallow and Abeille playing that I think show there is a bond there.
After deciding to try to let go of my anger about family members, the separation stayed the same, but admitting what I was doing made a major difference in my life. Getting email from them didn’t make my stomach hurt any more. For now, I am maintaining a personal boundary, not because they are all the characterizations I make of them, but because that is what I need right now and for the foreseeable future. It’s a position of honesty and resilience rather than paranoia and defensiveness.
That same intention applies to people I’m not wanting to shut out of my life too, and the communities that I and we are interrelated to. I don’t consciously assume my generalizations about them are accurate. I try not to put them on a pedestal. I can insist on personal boundaries without thinking I’m being mean to them.
Good.
Well said, Abeille. …Now to make *her* understand that. X_x
OH gosh what a page!!!! Oh wow, you go Abeille!!! Stand up for yourself!!! You got this!
THAT’S MY GIRL
The title of this comic isn’t about the pleasure machine being unable to find love, or even about her relationship with Miel, though that is pivotal. It’s about 1) the fact of Abeille never *having* love from her own parents, and it’s 2) about her learning to love *herself* enough to stand up to her mother.
Let’s go, Abeille! <3
Ever since this page published, I’ve come back to see it at least three times. There is something about the way that the story has been leading up to it, something about the way it’s framed… I’m not sure what exactly, but the “Again. I’m here again.” line strikes deep enough to draw blood.
Me too. I don’t know words for it. I bet there is a word.
I reread the comic a lot for a wiki and always find something new in each frame. But this is a page where I think you are invited to study it, and there is so much. I’m invited to revisit the entire story.
In one sense, it’s comic-like, as in what comics are, supposedly, comparing marvel/dc etc. comics. There’s a page where the heroine is portrayed and ideas are presented without a tail showing that someone is speaking. It’s a part like the chorus in a song where you break out to reflect on the meaning. it’s the break. It’s the breaks. Break it down.
It recurs through out Gina’s comics. And there are delightful themes. Abeille and Abeille are touching and they are doing the eye to eye thing. Abeille is self-loving. She’s empowered.
Go Get ‘er, girl! Tell her What-For then Grey Rock her into OBLIVION.
I love the contrast between old Abielle and current Abielle.
Old Abielle is blue with constrained hair and a numb/depressed expression.
Current Abielle is pink with flowing hair and an unhappy, but expressive face.
I love, also, that we’re seeing it from the perspective of old Abeille. She’s grounded in past depressing times, and the fantasy is current reality.
There’s the phrase: touch grass. Abeille does this naturally, I think. Even if it could upset Miel or her parents, she has to do the right thing.