Dude. Take your daughter on a walk, have a chat with her, and solve this on your own. You have to acknowledge that your wife is just making things worse.
Amaryllis: You need to do something with your daughter!
Mallow: Okay, “Abeille and I will go outside to talk and you’ll deal with dinner in here instead.”
That’s what I hope he’s actually saying in context. He’ll probably won’t get a word in otherwise with Amaryllis coming along.
This is Mallow. The best you can expect on that chat from him is “Run while you still can. I’ll distract her: that much I should still be able to do for you”.
You may be right, Jenny may be right, PuMa may be right. All of these would be 100% better options and FAR better for Abeille than to stay in that room. If he can get Abeille out of that room, she can have a much better chance at happiness & freedom. (Also love how he caught Amaryllis off guard by literally SHOVING the food into her hands. Like honestly a bit of a power move there.)
Also noting to this, referring to Abeille as “your daughter” is just mean to Abeille, and shows how much Amaryllis really cares about what Abeille wants.
As someone who grew up with a narcissistic, abusive parent, this doesn’t look good. It looks like he’s learned to just roll over, get out of the way, and not make waves, even when his kids are being hurt by his partner.
I might just be projecting based on my experience, but that’s what I’m seeing so far.
Well I had loving/complicated parents so from my backround/experience I’d say Mallow (whatever he is doing next) is first checking on his daughter if she wants to solve it by her own or wants his help. So he is supporting his daughter in whatever way she wants to solve it. Giving his daughter the confidence that it is her decision how the situation should be handled, but making sure if Abielle needs any help he got her back.
The way I really wish his reaction would just be “Away from you <3" before leaving with Abeille~. It won't be because Gina's writing is always more nuanced than that but a gal can dream.
I feel like her mom has seriously underestimated how having her daughter trapped in a small community played into her ability to manipulate Abeille’s life. She has way less control over the society and forces that be here and there is no way she’s gonna get Abeille back in that icy fishbowl now that Abeille has experienced a life without her mother constantly looming over her and making her miserable.
Sure, but both Miel and Abeille have options. Back where Abeille came from, her mother could manipulate far, far more things in their tiny community to make sure that her daughter had no recourse or options at all.
When Abeille arrives on Monotropa new arrivals are being given an inhabitant code, that’s said to provide free housing, food and medical. They are also told they can apply for work if they wish. I don’t know or I’m forgetting what came with moving to Monotropa. But, I think it means being fired from Eyebright doesn’t leave them without options.
Yes, but that was only because she was loud, not because she has any actual control over the system behind their society (like she did in the flashback when she got her daughter assigned to a job that would trash her schedule). She can make trouble, but she can’t force them to work some other job and she has no privleged status to force the health system to treat them as ill or anything.
I think he explains that, when he first arrives on Monotropa. But, there is a drawing of Mallow on Patreon from when Abeille and Evette were kids, and his hair looks slightly mad scientist-like. And drawings of him with slicked back hair, like when the parents are about to leave for Monotropa.
OMG. Is he about to just leave so that he doesn’t have to do anything?????? I mean, that has been his MO so far right? He just passively ignores it all.
Amaryllis calls Abeille “your daughter” when talking to Mallow.
They should both run with that.
And by that, I mean running. Away from Amaryllis. Permanently. Together.
Maybe they could have a normal father-daughter relationship without her around. I mean, look at how exhausted Mallow looks in the first few panels. It looks like he isn’t any happier in his relationship with Amaryllis than Abeille is.
I wouldn’t read too much into the “your daughter.” My husband and I refer to our children as belonging to the other parent when we are frustrated and exasperated with them. So did my parents. So did my husband’s parents. It’s just a thing one by all parents, not just the awful ones.
I Really hope Mallow has a plan and it’s part of the reason he was taking so long. I doubt it but I can dream.
I only really do that when I’m pretending to be an awful parent when I’m alone with my partner, and never in front of my children. The alienation that statement causes cannot be understated. All parents used to take hardened leather to their childrens backsides, force them to work around the age of 12 or so, and did a lot of other things generally seen as ‘ill advised’ right now. Please do not lump me in with you and any of your parent friends who do that to your children.
Nope that’s actually a really hurtful thing that basically tells your kids that you don’t claim ownership to them when you’re frustrated with them. So in other words, that you only love them when they behave the way you want. That may not be the message you’re intending to convey, or how you actually feel, but it can certainly be interpreted that way. Just because lots of parents do it, doesn’t make it ok. I’m speaking as someone who was talked to that way and very much internalized those messages.
I think it’s the tone and what the parent means, that is what people hear. Amaryllis here is treating Abeille as a non-entity. In a different scenario, the mother tells the father “your daughter is waiting for you to drive her to her class” and it has the meaning my mom is reminding my dad that he has responsibilities and she thinks my dad isn’t doing what he should be doing.
So, it’s not a good choice of words, but it’s really only when it means the child is a non-entity that it’s particularly harmful.
Also, father calling mother “mom”, or friends calling their friend that is a mother “mom” is endearing in the right scenario. It can have bad connotations when the tone and what the person saying it betrays something weird going on with that person.
Something interesting I’ve noticed: When Amaryllis and Mallow first arrive on Monotropa, their speech bubbles are blue. Also in flashbacks in Pasque and before they arrive. In the past few chapters as they see more of Monotropa, their speech bubbles are the same pink as everyone else. Now, as it looks like Amaryllis wants to take Abeille back home, her speech bubbles are blue again, but Mallow’s are still pink.
It might be nothing, but that’s pretty interesting.
Well, look at the coloring of the first two, actually three panels. It would appear that Amaryllis does not have buy-in right now.
In light of the color scheming, I consider it canonical that Mallow is pressing a pink button in the last panel to correct the ambience. And I am going to derive satisfaction from that interpretation until proven wrong. So, I am going to be good for a few days at least.
I’d like to say I have hope for Mallow to not be the enabling “don’t rock the boat” father, but I don’t. What I kind of expect is that he’ll take Abeille aside and “Now Bumblebee, your mother only wants what’s best for you, etc”.
Maybe Abeille will get lucky and Miel and/or Miel’s moms will be there to lay the smack down on Amaryllis. I don’t think Mallow will stand up for Abeille by himself.
I think Mallow has always been on Abeille’s side, but unwilling to stand up to TheBeast. I think you can be on someone’s “side” but be unable/unwilling to stand up for them. But, unfortunately, that DOES mean that you being on their side is….pretty useless to them, except for having one less enemy.
Notice how her tears are gone now? They were just crocodile tears because she’s trying to emotionally manipulate Abeille and it’s not going to work this time.
Anyone else noticing how emaciated Mallow is looking? His cheek bones are sticking out at unhealthy levels. I don’t think he’s doing very well with Amaryllis either.
I think the hair thing is just because it’s hot (compared to his norm) and he’s sweaty. Hair tends to get more frizzy and fluffy in those conditions normally regardless of how you handle your grooming.
As someone who does not have thermoregulators and cannot eat when the sun is up in summer: it could just be dehydration due to sweat, lack of appetite due to heat, and unfamiliar cuisine all combined with natural cheekbones. Could imply emotional issues, but uh… this is very familiar to me. I mean, the effects of narcissism too but just why the environment itself might make you blech.
I so want the next page to be Mallow explaining a thing to her mom.
“I have one daughter left and you are making her miserable. I swear if you continue to threaten her well being an happiness that’s it. I’m done. I will leave you. Do you understand me?”
Dude. Take your daughter on a walk, have a chat with her, and solve this on your own. You have to acknowledge that your wife is just making things worse.
Amaryllis: You need to do something with your daughter!
Mallow: Okay, “Abeille and I will go outside to talk and you’ll deal with dinner in here instead.”
That’s what I hope he’s actually saying in context. He’ll probably won’t get a word in otherwise with Amaryllis coming along.
This is Mallow. The best you can expect on that chat from him is “Run while you still can. I’ll distract her: that much I should still be able to do for you”.
You may be right, Jenny may be right, PuMa may be right. All of these would be 100% better options and FAR better for Abeille than to stay in that room. If he can get Abeille out of that room, she can have a much better chance at happiness & freedom. (Also love how he caught Amaryllis off guard by literally SHOVING the food into her hands. Like honestly a bit of a power move there.)
Also noting to this, referring to Abeille as “your daughter” is just mean to Abeille, and shows how much Amaryllis really cares about what Abeille wants.
I like the looks of this. Could it be? He looks reasonable and unaffected.
As someone who grew up with a narcissistic, abusive parent, this doesn’t look good. It looks like he’s learned to just roll over, get out of the way, and not make waves, even when his kids are being hurt by his partner.
I might just be projecting based on my experience, but that’s what I’m seeing so far.
Well I had loving/complicated parents so from my backround/experience I’d say Mallow (whatever he is doing next) is first checking on his daughter if she wants to solve it by her own or wants his help. So he is supporting his daughter in whatever way she wants to solve it. Giving his daughter the confidence that it is her decision how the situation should be handled, but making sure if Abielle needs any help he got her back.
The way I really wish his reaction would just be “Away from you <3" before leaving with Abeille~. It won't be because Gina's writing is always more nuanced than that but a gal can dream.
I feel like her mom has seriously underestimated how having her daughter trapped in a small community played into her ability to manipulate Abeille’s life. She has way less control over the society and forces that be here and there is no way she’s gonna get Abeille back in that icy fishbowl now that Abeille has experienced a life without her mother constantly looming over her and making her miserable.
Way less control over the society and forces that be here? She just got both Miel and Abeille fired.
Sure, but both Miel and Abeille have options. Back where Abeille came from, her mother could manipulate far, far more things in their tiny community to make sure that her daughter had no recourse or options at all.
What options are those again?
When Abeille arrives on Monotropa new arrivals are being given an inhabitant code, that’s said to provide free housing, food and medical. They are also told they can apply for work if they wish. I don’t know or I’m forgetting what came with moving to Monotropa. But, I think it means being fired from Eyebright doesn’t leave them without options.
https://lovenotfound.com/comic/ch06-p01a/
Aside from that they have each other, and friends and Miel’s family. That’s pretty lucky.
Yes, but that was only because she was loud, not because she has any actual control over the system behind their society (like she did in the flashback when she got her daughter assigned to a job that would trash her schedule). She can make trouble, but she can’t force them to work some other job and she has no privleged status to force the health system to treat them as ill or anything.
I think he explains that, when he first arrives on Monotropa. But, there is a drawing of Mallow on Patreon from when Abeille and Evette were kids, and his hair looks slightly mad scientist-like. And drawings of him with slicked back hair, like when the parents are about to leave for Monotropa.
OMG. Is he about to just leave so that he doesn’t have to do anything?????? I mean, that has been his MO so far right? He just passively ignores it all.
Run, Mallow! RUNNNNNN!!!
Amaryllis calls Abeille “your daughter” when talking to Mallow.
They should both run with that.
And by that, I mean running. Away from Amaryllis. Permanently. Together.
Maybe they could have a normal father-daughter relationship without her around. I mean, look at how exhausted Mallow looks in the first few panels. It looks like he isn’t any happier in his relationship with Amaryllis than Abeille is.
I wouldn’t read too much into the “your daughter.” My husband and I refer to our children as belonging to the other parent when we are frustrated and exasperated with them. So did my parents. So did my husband’s parents. It’s just a thing one by all parents, not just the awful ones.
I Really hope Mallow has a plan and it’s part of the reason he was taking so long. I doubt it but I can dream.
I only really do that when I’m pretending to be an awful parent when I’m alone with my partner, and never in front of my children. The alienation that statement causes cannot be understated. All parents used to take hardened leather to their childrens backsides, force them to work around the age of 12 or so, and did a lot of other things generally seen as ‘ill advised’ right now. Please do not lump me in with you and any of your parent friends who do that to your children.
Nope that’s actually a really hurtful thing that basically tells your kids that you don’t claim ownership to them when you’re frustrated with them. So in other words, that you only love them when they behave the way you want. That may not be the message you’re intending to convey, or how you actually feel, but it can certainly be interpreted that way. Just because lots of parents do it, doesn’t make it ok. I’m speaking as someone who was talked to that way and very much internalized those messages.
I think it’s the tone and what the parent means, that is what people hear. Amaryllis here is treating Abeille as a non-entity. In a different scenario, the mother tells the father “your daughter is waiting for you to drive her to her class” and it has the meaning my mom is reminding my dad that he has responsibilities and she thinks my dad isn’t doing what he should be doing.
So, it’s not a good choice of words, but it’s really only when it means the child is a non-entity that it’s particularly harmful.
Also, father calling mother “mom”, or friends calling their friend that is a mother “mom” is endearing in the right scenario. It can have bad connotations when the tone and what the person saying it betrays something weird going on with that person.
Something interesting I’ve noticed: When Amaryllis and Mallow first arrive on Monotropa, their speech bubbles are blue. Also in flashbacks in Pasque and before they arrive. In the past few chapters as they see more of Monotropa, their speech bubbles are the same pink as everyone else. Now, as it looks like Amaryllis wants to take Abeille back home, her speech bubbles are blue again, but Mallow’s are still pink.
It might be nothing, but that’s pretty interesting.
Wow! What an amazing little detail! Now that’s what I call clever writing (or artistry in this case).
Actually, if you look, his get LESS blue as the page goes on.
Well, look at the coloring of the first two, actually three panels. It would appear that Amaryllis does not have buy-in right now.
In light of the color scheming, I consider it canonical that Mallow is pressing a pink button in the last panel to correct the ambience. And I am going to derive satisfaction from that interpretation until proven wrong. So, I am going to be good for a few days at least.
I’d like to say I have hope for Mallow to not be the enabling “don’t rock the boat” father, but I don’t. What I kind of expect is that he’ll take Abeille aside and “Now Bumblebee, your mother only wants what’s best for you, etc”.
Maybe Abeille will get lucky and Miel and/or Miel’s moms will be there to lay the smack down on Amaryllis. I don’t think Mallow will stand up for Abeille by himself.
3 and a half years since we first saw here being a jerk to Abeille, I hope the torture is over soon… MAAAN Amaryllis makes me mad.
So, disclaiming any and all parenthood here, Amaryllis?
Good. Then get lost.
Oh! What’s going to happen next?
okay but the themes, right? he’s red and dressed like his daughter. they should be on the same side here.
I think Mallow has always been on Abeille’s side, but unwilling to stand up to TheBeast. I think you can be on someone’s “side” but be unable/unwilling to stand up for them. But, unfortunately, that DOES mean that you being on their side is….pretty useless to them, except for having one less enemy.
Interesting. Has he been considering leaving, too?
Notice how her tears are gone now? They were just crocodile tears because she’s trying to emotionally manipulate Abeille and it’s not going to work this time.
You think maybe she took drama club as her minor when getting her science degree? Or maybe moonlighted as a theatre player during her college years?
It’s called not getting what you want basically, like a child tantrum.
Anyone else noticing how emaciated Mallow is looking? His cheek bones are sticking out at unhealthy levels. I don’t think he’s doing very well with Amaryllis either.
And his hair looks like it’s trying to escape. “If you’re not leaving, I am”. Here are pages where he’s mentioned or appears: https://lovenotfound-fans.fandom.com/wiki/Mallow
I think the hair thing is just because it’s hot (compared to his norm) and he’s sweaty. Hair tends to get more frizzy and fluffy in those conditions normally regardless of how you handle your grooming.
As someone who does not have thermoregulators and cannot eat when the sun is up in summer: it could just be dehydration due to sweat, lack of appetite due to heat, and unfamiliar cuisine all combined with natural cheekbones. Could imply emotional issues, but uh… this is very familiar to me. I mean, the effects of narcissism too but just why the environment itself might make you blech.
“You need to do something with your daughter!”
Hmm… do they have ferris wheels on Monotropa? I could see that being something he could do with his daughter.
Good spot to talk, too
I see that you could not resist watching “The Third Man” again.
I so want the next page to be Mallow explaining a thing to her mom.
“I have one daughter left and you are making her miserable. I swear if you continue to threaten her well being an happiness that’s it. I’m done. I will leave you. Do you understand me?”
I feel like he’s going to kick Amaryllis out of the room so he can have a calm chat with Abeille.